Posts by Aussie Oz

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Planted a seed today... Update on de-program of my 16 year old son

by Aussie Oz in

well, some of you know that i have a 16 year old son who lives with his jw mother.

she has already mastered the art of guilt control on him.

i am most anxious that he not get baptized at all or at least unless he has really understood the whole truth, not just the watchtower truth.

Aussie Oz

Update 27 feb 2010

Got talking about money today. At 16 he has alredy saved a lot of money and bought his second car for some $3500. Praised his step father for teaching him about saving money and led it to how i never did. Talked about buying a block of land after his apprentichip is finished, and about investing, how the stock market works on a basic level, superanuation (is that the 401k to americans?) and realestate. Basically the diference of each one when it comes to returns.

I said you have to plan for the future... i didnt because well, i was scared armageddon would come before i got my drivers licence! We lived like it was so close that we shouldn't go to university, shouldn't put into our super etc because we were never going to need it! And here i am now, no assetts at all and facing retirement in 15 or so years.

I then said, actually that happened to a lot before 1975 as well, because the end was so close that some even sold homes and spent all the money pioneering, only to find that 35 years later they have almost nothing to retire on... in fact even back into the decades before that i told him they all thought the same.

so son, i said, plan for 50 years time! the smart ones do because what if it still hasn't come by then? how will you provide for your wife and family?

I was very careful to not give the impression that i though the JWs were wrong though. Just some seeds of doubt that may spring to live one day!

oz

Edit; oh, and another funny thing... the kids and i made guns today... we were going to work on the hotrod but we took the kids to my wifes sisters house for her mothers birthday... they has these wooden rubberband guns that the kids spent hours playing with. This morning they decided they wanted to make their own and thats what we did. One 'rifle' and one 'machine gun'. All steel, they did the cutting, grinding , i did the welding on my daughters as she was scared to and my son welded his.

do ya think i should inroduce them to poker next? LOL!

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I am so angry i want to smack someone around. God damn evil ex...I am ranting!

by Aussie Oz in

i am such a placid person.

i will always turn the other cheek.

i will always be the one to yeild.

Aussie Oz

Cameo... i will rescue the kids and just dream of fighting the beast.

thanks for that thought

oz

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I am so angry i want to smack someone around. God damn evil ex...I am ranting!

by Aussie Oz in

i am such a placid person.

i will always turn the other cheek.

i will always be the one to yeild.

Aussie Oz

Thanks Chris, i see what you mean... i dont think i'll ever lever her out! I just had to rant or let my head implode! I cannot fathom the workings of her mind. It seems the common thread though, they are mostly incapable of rational thought and empathy.

i am focusing much more on subtle festerings...the time has come however for me talk about the shunning they will be expected to do if they get baptised. The mother would not agree that they should wait till 18, so its going to be full on now she knows i am against the idea as it came up in mediation.

i focus on being a good dad thats for sure! and teaching them to think...

thanks for the support

oz

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I am so angry i want to smack someone around. God damn evil ex...I am ranting!

by Aussie Oz in

i am such a placid person.

i will always turn the other cheek.

i will always be the one to yeild.

Aussie Oz

cyberjesus; thankyou

hopscotch; as much as i feel like some public exspose' of her, i fear in the end it would backfire and be motivated by my anger! She has already become the master at manipulation of professsionals. But i could be pursuaded to take part in a doco on them.

iknowall; my kids get no say, when we broke up she promised me that i would always have the best acsess. I grew up the same... i was allowed to hate my dad. we got moved 600km away from him. I lost 22 years of my dad. and i have more to do with him than mum now, although i love mum very much, i think she was doing what she thought best. BUT that does not excuse it either really. My ex no doubt feels she is protecting them from 'spititual endangerment' or something. Yes it is out of control and i am having to fight for scraps, but i will not back down this time.

Penny2; yeah, i hope so. i can see the tables turning, but sometimes kids just get sucked right in. i will always be there for them. i dont want mine to be of that number. i am slowly working on them.

Blacksheep: not sure i understand! thats the last thing i want... maybe you are suggesting some sort of reverses phsycology? They then leave and she has to shun them?

hortenzie: 12 years... when we broke up she promised me the world regarding acsess and as a 'decent christian woman' i beleived her. at the start the kids were very little. have been through mediation back in 2001 that was a disaster. She made some very serious legal threats and i was weak and truly scared of what she would do and backed down. each time i tried to get better acsess as the years went by she would throw just enough bone to control the situation. She has fabricated phsycological issues in my son that she has used to also control the acsess. But now, she has tried to make the acsess even less and the tables are turned. this time i have nothing to lose, i have the money and lawyers and am prepared to spend. here, we have to have mediation fail before it can go to court, and that is the process i am in now.

michelle365; sounds very similar, just mine wont actually say it because she knows that no judge in aust will allow religion to be a tool. thats why she fabricated the phsyco issues as a legal smokescreen. all the best... your situation sounds aweful.

cry; yes. i am a litle panicky. she will not agree that the kids must wait until 18 before baptism either, so i am on alert as they are 13 and 16.

nugget; cant agree more... they know i am fighting for them. i am sure it will backfire...well i hope so! after 22 years of hating my dad i found him to be a most wonderful man. i am so glad i found him again.

GLT; i do call them on my sons mobile, probably not enough so i will step it up i think! my daughter always seems to lose hers! i have thought of getting them a laptop but i know she would ban the internet so maybe i could bring that up if it goes to court. (which i think it will.)

for the record, the current access is every two weeks friday at 5pm to saturday 3 pm. she wants to retain that PLUS now make me drive all the way instead of 1/2 way each. That would mean: leave home at 3pm friday to pick them up at 5 and get home again at 7. get up at say 8 in the morning and be together for 5 hours till we get in the car at 1pm and drop them to the ex at 3 and get home at 5 again. That is actually more time in the car than in visiting! 8 hours driving in two days for about 7 hours of real 'quality' time.

this simply is not acceptable.

oz

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I am so angry i want to smack someone around. God damn evil ex...I am ranting!

by Aussie Oz in

i am such a placid person.

i will always turn the other cheek.

i will always be the one to yeild.

Aussie Oz

i have calmed down this morning... i will come back tonight and answer some questions

thankyou everybody

oz

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How do you respond to: "The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one?"

by darthfader in

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friends

i get this statement all the time from my jw family.

that this system is in satan's control.

or that "this or that" is put here to test our faith.

Aussie Oz

i would reply: And so are YOU.

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I am so angry i want to smack someone around. God damn evil ex...I am ranting!

by Aussie Oz in

i am such a placid person.

i will always turn the other cheek.

i will always be the one to yeild.

Aussie Oz

I am such a placid person. I will always turn the other cheek. I will always be the one to yeild. Yet tonight i am so angry. I seriously wish ill to my ex.

i curse her. When we parted, i wished her all the happiness that the future could bring for her. Now i want nothing more than to see her rot in hell so to speak.

I am sure that religion is the problem. I can simply not understand why she will not even under the cloud of family law court simply allow the children to spend every second weekend with me. 12 years i have been fighting her.

I can only reason that she sees them missing each second sunday meeting as the work of satan. I am sure she sees it as a case of protecting the children from 'spiritual endagerment'

i so want to destroy her faith in this crock of a religion now. I want her to feel awful about what she has done. My children have missed out on so much because of her, and i have too.

i so badly want to get my kids out. I want her to lose them as a consequence of trying to keep them. I am so angry right now. How can she sleep at night. I wish she could not sleep at night.

my mediation session went very bad today. Just when i thought she could take no more time away from me and the kids, she just tried. I feel like going on television, the news paper, something real dramatic to call attention to her evilness that i am sure is backed up by her elders.

I hope i have calmed down by tomorrow.

I always thought 'true christians' were the model of how a family breakdown would be handled. I obviously lived under a mushroom.

i appologise for my rant. It is so unlike me to wish ill to another. i cant help it tonight. I feel so totally powerless. i feel like crying.

oz

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FOOD at the proper time and NEW LIGHT from the Golden Age/Awake!

by Terry in

we do well to bear in mind that among the drugs, serums, vaccines, surgical operations, etc., of the medical profession, there is nothing of value save an occasional surgical proceedure.

their so-called "science" grew out of egyptian black magic and has not lost its demonological character.... we shall be in a sad plight when we place the welfare of the race in their hands.

[1] 1. the golden age, aug. 5, 1931, p. 727.. the journal of the a. m. a. is the vilest sheet that passes the united states mail.... nothing new and useful in theraputics escapes its unqualified condemnation.

Aussie Oz

Judge, is the quote you refer to? found it in the 1994 watchtower...

6 What about the Awake! magazine? From its beginning, Awake! too has advocated truth. Originally called TheGoldenAge, this magazine was designed for public distribution. Regarding its objective, the first issue, dated October 1, 1919, stated: “Its purpose is to explain in the light of Divine wisdom the true meaning of the great phenomena of the present day and to prove to thinking minds by evidence incontrovertible and convincing that the time of a greater blessing of mankind is now at hand.” Thinking people responded to the message of TheGoldenAge. For a number of years, its circulation was even greater than that of TheWatchtower. Watchtower 1/1 1994

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Song Book changes - the 'real' reason behind them - EYE OPENING

by EndofMysteries in

it's very interesting comparing things that are removed.

for one, new world order and new world, new order, all being eliminated from everything.

just research nwo, "new world order", etc, to see.

Aussie Oz

i havn't seen a song book for 12 years... but am a bit stunned by the changes mentioned.

i think the GB is gearing up, not only for an exodus in 2014, but more than likely lining up a major change. Spend the next 4 years preping the R&F to blindly follow. The placing of the Gb and F&DS as of utmost importance will be used to justify it and manage the fallout...

that's what i think anyway!

oz

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Talk by insane speaker ... try to listen ...

by Albert Einstein in

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friends

if you are ready for everything... try to listen the talk by ciro aulicino you will be with me in paradise.. the fact, that jw are willing to listen such crap is a proof, they are all insane.

(i wanted to say "idoits", but decided to be polite...).

if you have good guts, sit down and go for it.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwa9kx5wjtm.

Aussie Oz

WOW!

loved the flippant generation bit! basically telling em all to forget it as something of no consequence!

he's a tool of the society... I beleive they deliberatly use this manner of speculative talk mixed with some humor to lead peoples minds away from disquieting thoughts such as the recent change in generation. It is a method of saying we were wrong, but hey, no matter... the real issue is the exciting stuff like the paradise... almost making jest of the issue.

Talks like that, full of speculation and no scriptures can never make it to print format, for that can be used againts them, a talk however... well, the speaker just got a little carried away thats all... BUT didn't he encourage us so much! blah blah blah.

It's incredulous! the audience will go away talking about Pangea and snakes with no expanding jaw... and Jehovah using anti-matter... it'll be 'generation'? what are you on about?

edit; It's what i call a 'fluff' piece. Has no merrit but to draw peoples attention away from more important matters

oz